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People discuss and speculate a lot

We even don’t know our self what’s gone happen and how we are gone solve certain things like internal transfer.

But one thing is for sure. We are not selling shares to new investors anymore. The sale of shares for a certain price is over. There aren’t gone be more shares. We also ensure that people that are already invested get a few shares because we are aware that it’s not possible to improve someone’s live only with 3 shares.

The rule we set, 3 times actual amount of shares, should be a good start. As well as the rule that everybody that is already invested has the opportunity to buy 50 shares max.

There will be a counter in each ones account that everybody knows how many shares more he/she could buy.

f. E.

17/50 shares

88/240 shares

Everybody could buy as many shares as they want on the free market from others. There are no limits. We expect the price to be higher than 56$ because the amount is limited.

We expect that many people will buy many shares to sell them after a few weeks for a higher price. That’s the free market.

The price will be as high as people will be willing to pay for the shares. If somebody will pay 100$ for one share that would will result 3.5% per week which is still a lot. I personally don’t think that somebody will pay more that 200$.

We will do our best to provide a convenient and fair trade. We will do our best to satisfy everybody as usual.

At the moment there are still enough shares available and there are gone be as long as the actual homepage is online. Even when the new homepage is online, we will give certain people the chance to buy at least a basic amount of shares as we said already a few times.

The new homepage will start at the same time, as the regular sale will stop. Eventually there wont be enough shares until we are gone start up the homepage. In that case we eill release the amounts the got sold to us the last two weeks.

As long as you can access our old homepage you could buy shares. You don’t have to reserve shares or send us messages.

Tomorrow is payday as usual and we expect a usual demand. We expect that there are gone be still shares available next week.

The next days and weeks it will be same as always. There will be a sale and everything will be as always. The interest won’t change and if it will in a positive way.

BR Frank & Jörg

Answers please forward

Please inform everybody about the important news. Yesterday evening we’ve read many mails and once again as usual there are many misunderstandments.

        

1.     New users don’t have to send a contract, because the money is already forwarded directly to the company.

2.     Bitcoin withdraws are with the new page also possible in smaller portions/amounts. You could also withdraw 0.0001 BTC, if you think its funny, because its not additional workload for us anymore.

3.     No, shares cant get changed to shares in the hacker safe.

4.     Nobody has to be afraid of not getting any shares anymore, if he/she made the decision to get some. We’ve gotten at least 100 mails of people who asked us whether they are still gone get shares.
YESSSS, of course. Definitely for the next 10 days (we assume), maybe a little bit longer. Even if we stop the official sale, people that choose the way of paying by PM are allowed to still buy shares because it takes a little bit longer on PM than normal. We reserve some shares for this reason so no panic.
Yes, you could buy shares from extern after the new homepage is online as long as other people sell them.
No you cant buy any new shares from us anymore with PM or Bitcoin only with the winnings you mad on betshare.

5.     The new website is mandatory to sell the shares, kind of like stocks.

Its not a 100% new homepage, all functions for us and the database are still the same, but we built in some new safety features and optimized what we ore you don’t like.

6.     Sell shares. Who wants to sell shares could do that. Please only send us only one request not like “sell 10 times 1 share”. Please decide ahead how many shares you would like to sell. We have some checklist to prove whether we could release the payment. The last time we had to stop 60% of the payments because we didn’t get an additional email. Many people are happy about this additional safety.

7.     Hacker
There are hackers but they are not targeting us. In our research we found out that e-mail accounts of our clients got hacked first. After that all contacts of the affected client where taken and we are one of them.
From there it war pretty easy to infiltrate the up and downline.
That’s how the transferred from account A to B.

Once somebody waited and transferred money in the middle of the night and changed the account details of the affected accounts.
If it would be a problem from our side we assume that they would have transferred more money from our companies account and not the account’s of our clients.


Anyway, we are alert and we are improving the safety.
With the new homepage we don’t expect further problems. That’s the main improvement beside the grade of automasitation.

8.     English Blog
Please inform everybody that there is a new blog here available in English. 

      Thanks to the author.

9.     If somebody has 50 shares they could make 4 times more out of it. Somehow there is a rumor that you have to have at least 50 shares. There is only one thing: It is pretty hard to get 200 shares out of less that 50 share if you only invest your winnings.

Greetings

19051986

                                                

Happy Easter!

There was a lot going on in the last few weeks and we want to take the opportunity of eastern to take a little bit of breath.

Please understand that we phase out support once again. There is nothing that could be urgent at the moment, we can fix anything.

Payouts work quite swiftly because we can divide the work and most of the contracts were already sent out. We are controlling on a random basis. (Should we find someone who hasn't sent in a contract, we will lock down the account for the time being)

You can click right at the side of the box where you write in the code and then you paste in the code. Why that works again like that we don't know but...soon we will have a new website and that's why we don't get riled up anymore.

There are still circa 15000 shares, so everything is happening quicker than we expected. Nonetheless shares are sold increasingly which then become free again. Maybe that can stay in balance in a few days until we are online. That would be the most convenient solution.

As already stated anyone who requests the money is going to get his shares. For such special cases and latecomers we keep around 7000 shares free additionally.

There much to do at the time for us beside the main track  and we have to organize a lot. But the functions of Betshare remain. This week we got the payout list to zero as fast as never before because many had to buy probably last minute easter presents. (and we thought we had to be faster)

We are going to do Bitcoin bookings at the weekend and support will get behind. Several bets have to wait but despite that we should get near to the 7% (I think).

The new website is not only going to be more secure but is going to take more work off our load.
For example payouts take place automatically after a successful security prompt.
Deposits by Bitcoin will be booked automatically.
Any account changes are feasible on your own and there will be double queries so that there won't be any more accounting errors.

All in all that should relieve the load quite a lot for us.

Happy Easter to all!

Frank + Jörg

Security: Please check and participate

Please log in and check all transactions.

Then change all passwords as well as email addresses which are active at Betshare. 

If you suspect something please immediately write an email at our support with the subject line "ALARM". In that way we can take a look.

But change your passwords in any case.

One constant is the yield and that got booked!

Despite all discussions and despite all the upcoming changes we want to maintan one constant and that are the weekly payouts.
Each share contains circa 4$ yield and that will remain so in future. And that is exactly the most important thing for 99.9% of all Betsharers.
A yield you can reckon with.

All shares which were bought before and on the 17th of March were taken account of.

Your Betshare Team

Late Night or Early Morning News

LateNight Info

The quiet is something wonderful. Frank and I have spent some time with reading comments and criticism.

There are more misconceptions than we thought.

We can’t disclose everything but at least you guys out there should be able to imagine on what we are working on and how continue to work.

We have a network of people who place our bets with their credit cards (or the like). Each of these people renders account with us and the setter get compensated.

Why this effort? Without it we could make a few dollars but not in that quantity.

Source of errors are smaller through the scattering in case one arises and the bigger bulk is right.

That network of people needs security. By now most of them are content without security because they know our transactions but especially the new ones in the network, for them a security deposit in Bitcoin is necessary.

Each person who bets now has the opportunity to secure his bets with us.

(By the way, we are not looking for new people who bet because we still have may who are on a waiting list)

Anyone who now thinks those people could keep the winnings for themselves is mistaken. No one makes really any worthwhile winnings on their own. Each week is meant by that.

Only the overall result for us looks good and we are becoming more effective the bigger the network is growing (until now, and that’s why we have a turning point).

We can bet anywhere at all times without delay and theoretically we can use more stake that we actually have (which isn’t necessary, though).

Most of the money only serves as security and the only money that gets moved is the wager money which comes from our community in the long run.

In the meantime we make 10% this week but only pay out 7%. The rest doesn’t flow unfiltered to us but rather in several post which will be emptied once in a while. For example if we wanted to close down one week without wanting to wait for a big part of the bets. Or simpley where there’s a week with bad results (which can of course happen).

In the intial period, when we haven’t had a website yet, there were already enormous ups and downs of -3% to +20%. Everything was there at that time. Our taks was to become stable and more secure.

We have mastered that. But we also became much bigger, that doesn’t present any problem. But we’d like to have more looseness for us.

The offers from so-called wholesalers came at the perfect timing. That’s why we decided to stop here, to not sell any new shares to many small investors but instead sell many shares to few inverstors who in turn distribute those shares.

Nevertheless we will increase our potential and continue working. Just in a different manner. The current day-to-day business won’t be the same as in the future.

There is a point which we all want to reach together in our team. This point is still a few years off but it’s there and in range.

We had to set up rules because we were asked to. We engaged ourselves with the exceptions. We have reduced and increased. We set the bar higher and lower and finally discovered that there is always a rest that is dissatisfied.

But we don’t mind, we are satisfied. We have achieve everything we could.

Everybody can have 50 shares, that means circa 200$ per week for a livetime. For anyone who can’t affore more shares 200$ per week should be a good option.

To thinkg that it’s additional to one’s income.

Everyone has that opportunity who now gets on board.

Anyone who got in earlier and has already 50, 100 or more shares can buy even more shares to that. We assessed that very generously. You can’t make more from that earning when you only have time for one year.

Anyone who wants to buy ahead has certainly more capital and income to be satisfied.

Plase understand that we can’t please everybody. It isn’t a step forward when we say that everyone can still buy a few shares more. Later the people who speculate with the shares want that they climp up to earn more money.

Timetable:

There are still circa 19000 shares. That should suffice for a few days. We try to set up the new website on time for the sale end.

That means that as long as the current website is up you can still buy shares.

Anyone who visits betshare.biz and sees our current site can order Perfectmoney and still has time to buy share. Anyone who see the new website cannot buy any more shares from us but maybe from other users. We don’t want to make any price prognosis.

We recommend everyone to put the share sales on the new site, meaning to still wait.

1. Every sale at the moment takes more time anyway. It could overlap.

2. There is certainly more money for the shares if those are sold on the market place.

3. The sale of the shares on the market place doesn’t have any fees. Only the sale costs 1.5% (market place).

We expect our new website in two weeks. (don’t expect a total revolution, more of a proper modification with a design improvement)

When we pay out new earning on Thursday or Friday we expect a slight increase in share sales and with that waiting time during the booking. In that case a deposit is sitting in a queue which takes at most 20-30 minutes. So please don’t write immediately an email.

Regarding the server breakdown last weekend: circa 15% of the amounts were booked into again. The rest follows this night or tomorrow during the day.

We will furnish information here on the blog. Anyone who still has something can write us an email.

Thank you.

Your Jörg with Frank